646 Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin — The Eleusinian Mysteries, Discovering the Divine, The Immortality Key, The Pagan Continuity Hypothesis
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Dr. Mark Plotkin and Brian Muraresku discuss The Immortality Key, a book about the origins of Christianity and the Eleusinian Mysteries of ancient Greece. The Eleusinian Mysteries were a series of religious rituals and ceremonies held in Eleusis, Greece, that were said to offer participants the opportunity to achieve immortality. Brian Muraresku, an expert on the Mysteries, discusses their history and significance. He explains that the Mysteries were based on the story of Demeter and Persephone, the goddesses of grain and death, respectively. Those who took part in the Mysteries would drink a potion called the Kykeon, which was said to induce visionary experiences. These experiences were thought to be necessary for achieving immortality.
The cultural conversation around psychedelics has changed dramatically in the past five years, due in part to the work of journalists like Michael Pollan. While some progress has been made in the legal arena, with substances like psilocybin and MDMA being studied for therapeutic use, there is still a long way to go. The Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku explores the idea that the pagan religions of ancient Greece and Rome may have had a significant impact on the development of Christianity. He argues that early Christians were influenced by Gnostic ideas of direct experience of the divine, and that this concept is reflected in various aspects of Christian theology. Christianity is born with secrets and was influenced by pagan mystery religions which included practices such as consuming divine flesh and blood. It has been suggested that the mind-altering experiences associated with taking ayahuasca may have been the inspiration for the Christian concept of the Eucharist. This is based on the fact that the word for wine in ancient Greek was "pharmakos" - which means drug. It has been suggested that the wine consumed in the first century AD was spiked with psychedelics, which could explain some of the strange visions and behaviors described in the Bible. There is some evidence to support this theory, including physical evidence of psychedelic substances being mixed into wine at a site near Pompeii. However, many scholars are reluctant to investigate this possibility due to the implications it could have for their religious beliefs.
The earliest known evidence of mind-altering substances being used in religious or spiritual contexts comes from the 12,000 year old site of Godin Tepe. It is thought that the use of these substances was a key part of the development of early civilizations. In an interview, Dr. Mark Plotkin talks to Brian Muraresku about the Vatican's Pontifical Commission of Sacred Archeology. Brian Muraresku discusses his research into the use of psychoactive substances in ancient civilizations, and how this has led him to believe that the Catholic Church is more open to the idea than many people think. He cites his own experience of being welcomed by scholars and church officials when he first started his research, and believes that the value of truth is what unites classical scholars and theologians today.
Psychedelics have been historically persecuted, but there is new interest in their potential implications for divinity and worship. Harvard Divinity School is now exploring these implications, which opens up new areas of research. Many people who have psychedelic experiences report having sensory overload and unforgettable experiences. Brian Muraresku believes that psychedelics can be helpful in attaining a spiritual goal, if used correctly and infrequently.
Dr. Mark Plotkin is an ethnobotanist who has dedicated his life to preserving indigenous cultures and their traditional plants and medicines. In this interview, he discusses his motivations for this work and how it has positively impacted his life. He talks about how the use of ayahuasca in hunting rituals is just one small aspect of what these plants represent. He also discusses the positive impact of hallucinogens on prisoners and religious leaders, and highlights the need for more careful and culturally sensitive use of these compounds in the future.
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